Additional Evidence to Rural Development Committee
For Oral Evidence Session; 28th November 2000

  1. The SGA endorses the NWTF Code of Conduct. It is not our intention to have terriers bait a fox underground, preferring to use: “Individual terriers, which are known by their behaviour not to attack foxes physically” - Dr Gill Hartley Pesticide Usage & Wildlife Management SASA. Terriers are used in the so-called civilized Nordic countries, why should Scotland be different? We maintain that the hunting of foxes with dogs is a necessary tool in predator control, without which ground nesting birds in particular will suffer enormous losses.
     

  2. In oral evidence, Bill Swann stated: "the most effective way of controlling the population is to shoot in the late autumn and early winter”. In fact, this is the least effective time to control, for two reasons. First, the damage of concern to gamekeepers, conservationists and sheep farmers occurs during spring and early summer. In autumn and early winter, it is not possible to identify and target those foxes that will settle and cause damage during the following spring and summer. Considerable mortality takes place during autumn and winter, culling at this time kills foxes that would in any case have died or moved away by springtime. Thus culling in spring and summer is far more closely targeted on problem animals, and will actually involve the culling of fewer foxes. Second, on an estate with effective and intensive fox control, rebuilding of the fox population will occur more through immigration than through reproduction 'on site'. Replacement by immigration will happen rapidly in autumn/early winter since this is the peak time for fox dispersal. Dispersal hardly occurs during spring/summer.
     

  3. Bill Swann further stated “We are not calling gamekeepers cruel, but when they put terriers underground - an action that in effect results in baiting of the fox which is trapped and cannot escape - the fox suffers unacceptable mental cruelty.” He goes on to describe the underground use of terriers as a cruel Practice. What he fails to recognise is that keepers do not want their management to result in confrontation; they want the fox to escape so that they can shoot it.
     

  4. If terrier work is prohibited, the Scottish Executive’s National Parks Bill will fail. There can be no Sustainable Biodiversity (one of the key principles of the Bill) if unregulated foxes are eating the eggs and young of ground nesting birds: “Scotland’s wildlife, including game species and their predators, are inescapably affected by human activity. Active management is thus an inescapable aspect of rural conservation.” “Game management delivers significant biodiversity benefits at no net cost to the taxpayer.” - Game Conservancy Trust.
     

  5. Rural Sustainability - another key principle of the National Parks Bill - is inextricably linked to Sustainable Biodiversity “Scotland’s managed game populations are world-famous. This nationally important land-use sustains rural employment, has contributed to a number of our most attractive landscapes, and significantly enhances biodiversity.” - Game Conservancy Trust
     

  6. Different terrain and habitats require particular methods of predator control. Keepers in some areas require hunts to flush foxes from huge acres of sterile forestry planted as a result of government grants in the 1960s/70s. 8 of the 15 European Member States hunt with hounds, why should Scotland be different. Nowhere in Europe can you find such rich biodiversity of flora and fauna in such a small area.
     

  7. Gamekeepers, or Wildlife Managers as we have increasingly become, ensure that ground nesting birds such as curlews, lapwings, skylarks, ring-ouzel, capercaillie and black cock, merlin and dotterel are protected from predators during their vulnerable nesting season. Without terriers, this protection would be incomplete.
     

  8. Those supporting the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Bill state that terrier work accounts for 12% of the annual cull. The importance of terrier work during the vulnerable bird nesting period needs to be stressed e.g.: in upland areas there are few, if any, alternatives and that in such areas, hunting with dogs actually accounts for a high proportion of the fox cull - 26% (SGA Fox Cull Census results, 1999). “Terriers are used extensively in the more remote areas of Scotland as a means of destroying cubs in dens. This is particularly important, since foxes often den in rock cairns where it would be impossible to dig down to them if terriers were no longer used.” - Dr Gill Hartley
     

  9. If driven foxes are wounded and go to ground, it is immoral not to use terriers to swiftly locate and humanly dispatch them.
     

  10. If a lactating vixen is shot, how does a keeper locate and humanly dispatch the cubs without a terrier to ascertain their whereabouts? “Terriers are likely to kill young fox cubs quickly and humanely.” “Young cubs cannot be controlled effectively or humanely by shooting adult foxes above ground.” “The most effective method of controlling young cubs is the use of terriers below ground.” - Dr Gill Hartley
     

  11. The Bill’s supporters assert “Foxes are immobilised in a powerful beam of light and then shot with a high powered rifle”. We emphasise that this is not the case, foxes are not cardboard cut-outs and are definitely not immobilised - they are merely less cautious under the cover of darkness. The light simply identifies their presence by the reflection from their eyes and does no more good. This is normally some distance away and they are called, or stalked, with a view to reducing that distance as much as possible. How cautious the fox is (dependant on its age or whether it has been shot at or chased before), wind direction and natural light level all play a part in determining success. In written evidence, the SSPCA state “Hand-held lamps now make night shooting in remote areas more feasible.” However Dr Gill Hartley states “But, there are a number of situations in which lamping is not practical or safe.” It is our experience that, in rough terrain, attempting to shoot whilst using a hand-held lamp is impractical and likely to result in an increased number of wounded foxes.
     

  12. Scientifically, rodents are mammals. This Bill does not seek to outlaw Rat poisoning - a death that can take up to 3 days - or their dispatch by terriers. Presumably, the Bill’s promoters consider this “Necessary Suffering”. Why then are hounds killing a fox in seconds not acceptable? Why is the use of ferrets to flush rabbits from underground acceptable suffering and not the use of terriers to flush foxes?
     

  13. Live trapping of wild foxes in rural areas are trap shy and figures do not indicate this is a viable method of control in the countryside.
     

  14. Other forms of non-lethal predator control have been variously suggested. MAFF considered the use of electric fencing. Clearly this would prove uneconomic on grouse moors; heavy snow and power failure would make this an unviable option. The Game Conservancy Trust gave evidence that Conditioned Taste Aversion would not work in this country.
     

  15. Lurchers do not chase foxes to exhaustion; they are quickly caught and dispatched. Lurchers like foxhounds, rapidly learn not to grab a fox by the hind legs as the fox will turn and bite the dog. The Lurchers learns to grab the top of the spine, thus ensuring a swift death. This is surely equivalent to the end phase of hunting with hounds. Both hounds and lurchers have superior speed to a fox in anything more than a sprint.
     

  16.  In 1999, 4 cases of Wildlife Crime were reported to the Procurator Fiscal, of which 2 resulted in convictions. This Bill will not be a priority for the Police; will be difficult to enforce resulting in an atmosphere of subterfuge.
     

  17. Gamekeepers’ dogs are usually household pets as well as a working tool. Who will pay for their incarceration, their work and their training if an Accused is subsequently found Not Guilty and what compensation will there be for the distress caused to family members?
     

  18. The Bill’s Disqualification Orders (Part 7) state “In order to protect livestock, fowl or gamebirds kept, or crop growing, on that land; or in the case of rabbit or hare, in order to provide (but not by way of sale or trade) food for human consumption. What justification is there for banning the sale of Game? This is back door legislation against shooting
     

  19. The Scottish Gamekeepers Association backs all legal forms of predator control. We feel that if the Protection of Wild Mammals (Scotland) Bill becomes law, it will cause unnecessary suffering and will do nothing for the welfare of the fox. “The fox population in Scotland as a whole, as elsewhere in Britain, has increased substantially during the last 50 years. This already makes effective control of fox numbers at both local (farm) and regional (county) scales more difficult than previously.” “The present Bill would so reduce the list of current methods as to render control ineffective or impractical.” - Game Conservancy Trust.
     

  20. As professionals we ensure that our working practices are of the highest standard and that suffering is minimized - we care deeply about the countryside we manage, the countryside we live and work in - and the flora and fauna dependant on our skills. Legislation should be based on facts not feelings. If Lord Watson seeks to ban cruelty, he is failing to do so with this Bill
     

  21. For generations, we have managed Scotland’s countryside. As it stands, this Bill is a direct threat to all aspects of professional countryside management. This Bill does not directly concern itself with hare coursing & foxhunting and is therefore totally flawed. We will be pleased to answer any questions you have on the wider implications of this Bill.


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